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maybe a little... philosophical?
« on: December 02, 2012, 06:27:36 PM »
mmmm. the next two ti-phy episodes turn a little... philosophical. : /
i hope you enjoy them when they come out.
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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2012, 04:27:15 AM »
That's great by me, I love philosophical topics. And modern physics has aspects that lend themselves to excellent philosophical discussions.
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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2012, 02:47:24 PM »
yeah,
you know... i don't think the mandate of my show is to have people speculate wildly,
but maybe if, within the context of the show,
if someone asks a... metaphysical-y question,
it's not a bad thing for a informed discussion to follow.
these questions often have no answer, and are often based on ancient cultural misconceptions,
but it's better to have some people speak directly to the physics,
than to leave a vacuum, and have it filled by movies like "what the bleep do we know?!"
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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2012, 10:05:55 PM »
I've always wondered what that bleep is censoring in that movie title. I may never know.

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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2012, 06:47:18 AM »
I've always wondered what that movie was about, and I've tried to watch it and find out a couple of times, but I can't get through even the first few minutes without turning it off in frustration.

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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2012, 08:08:43 AM »
i guess it is a standin for the word "donkey"
i wonder if i'm auto-replacing for the word donkey. i guess we'll see.

um, anyway. it's about quantum mechanics and consciousness.

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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2012, 08:27:34 PM »
Excellent.  Now we just need them to summarise Zeitgeist, and I can delete another movie that I'm never going to make it through...

Anyway, to remain on topic, I like a bit of philosophy in with my physics.  Except not too much about Schrodinger's Cat, that kalamari gets weird really quick.

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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2012, 09:26:26 PM »
Quote from: Brian Dunning on Zeitgeist
Joseph made a second film, Zeitgeist: Addendum which offers much better insight into the man and his motivations for creating Zeitgeist. He's basically a postmodern utopian, who spends most of his effort speaking out against money-based economics. He advocates the rejection of government, profit, banking, and civil infrastructure: basically, the "establishment". Once you understand where he's coming from, it makes it a lot easier to understand why he made Zeitgeist and tried so hard to point out the corruption and evils of the establishment. The problem is that he simply made up a bunch of crap to drive his point, and that's where he crossed the line between philosophical advocacy and unethical propaganda.

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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2012, 10:34:23 AM »
so it's one of those movies (like.. baraka? was that what it was called)
where being high will make it make sense?
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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2012, 11:23:48 AM »
I don't think it has anything to do with being high or not. The first two films (I haven't seen the 3rd) are egregious fabrications that are fit together into a conspiracy theory. I'm pretty sure it had a lot of success on 4chan and similar websites because those types of places have tons of young and impressionable people who most likely haven't encountered conspiracy theories before. When you're 14-18 the concept that there's a big secret that you know and the rest of world doesn't is so alluring that you'll adopt without question and defend it zealously. That's Zeitgeist in a nutshell.

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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2012, 05:58:07 PM »
so it's not like baraka
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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2012, 08:50:29 PM »
Sorry to disappoint.

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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2012, 10:18:51 AM »
baraka is SOO BORING if you're not high.
don't go to movies with pothead friends if they get to choose the movie
and they are high when you go and you are not.
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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 11:00:03 AM »
Baraka has been highly recommended by a friend... who is not a pothead, but is an arthouse film snob. Don't know what to think.
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Re: maybe a little... philosophical?
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 07:56:57 PM »
it's like,
a drum track
and some stock footage
that makes you feel like maybe our entire lives are a fart.

so.
i think being high makes it easier to take in.
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